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Aneil Mishra

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Aneil Mishra

Yes, I was for the Iraq war because I feel we ARE fighting a war on terrorists. (Oh, excuse me–now Obama calls the Gitmo detainees “refugees.”) If Bush hadn’t responded in a forceful way after 9/11, the libs would have been the first to brand him a coward, a weakling, an appeaser. We’re dealing with people who commit suicide bombing, and also send their children out to do it, so they can get 99 virgins in paradise. They believe it is “holy” to kill Americans. Obama thinks he can reason with that? He thinks the power of his charisma will change their minds? It’s just ludicrous and arrogant on his part.

Point Two: Facts don’t lie–the stimulus is not working. See the latest statistics. “Oh, things might have been worse without it.” Yeah, right. That is hard to prove.

Point 2.5: Yes, Bush also did some bailouts. He also overspent. But we don’t justify doing wrong just by saying that somebody else did it. Also, it’s the sheer magnitude of Obama’s spending–he’s gone waaaay beyond what anyone has ever done. I’m sorry, but that makes people a little nervous.

Point 3: Of course we have our problems, but I believe the U.S. (based on the Constitution and the ideas of our Founding Fathers) is the greatest country on earth. We were an experiment in government that succeeded mightily. People around the world envy us and try to come here. We spend enormous amounts of effort and treasure defending democracy and other countries around the world. I love this country, and it angers me when Obama denigrates us to the world and apologizes for “sins.” And no, I don’t want us to change into a socialistic nanny state.

Point 4: The “main-stream” press is a joke now. They’re so much in the tank for Obama they get “tingly feelings in their legs” over him. The main-stream press didn’t even cover the ACORN or the Van Jones stories. They sneer at honest protestors expressing their concerns. If it wasn’t for Fox, we wouldn’t know half of what is really going on in Washington.

Question 1: Why do you think that big government can run 1/6th of our economy–the health care system? Do you even know what’s in the health care bill? They voted not to post it on the internet. This will also prevent the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) from figuring costs before it’s passed. Most Americans feel we need some kind of health care reform (we could start with tort reform, but they don’t want to piss off the lawyers). We need to slow down and pass change that people can understand and live with. That is quite different from ignoring opponents and ramming through this giant boondoggle.

Question 2: Freedoms the current administration has or might take away? Let’s see–how about saddling us and our children with a huge debt we can’t repay, that will probably cause inflation and other problems in the future? That takes away from our freedom. How about health care? Employers won’t pay extra to insure their employees–they’ll opt to pay the smaller fine and we’ll all be forced into government-run health care. That takes away our freedom. How about trying to cover millions more people without more doctors? That will take away our freedom by causing rationing. How about giving away billions of taxpayer dollars to a corrupt organization like ACORN? How about indoctrinating school children by having kindergartners sing songs of praise to Obama? How about giving power to crazy czars who are not vetted by Congress and don’t have to answer to anybody but Obama? How about stifling free speech by ordering insurance companies to “cease and desist” from writing letters to their policy-holders that bring up questions about the health care plan? How about excoriating honest questions and concerns from the public (i.e. tea-party protestors)? How about conference calls to the National Endowment for the Arts “suggesting” that artists create works of art praising Obama? How about telling people to rat on their friends and family by forwarding “fishy” e-mails to the White House? These are just a few ways of trying to steal our freedoms. I could name more. And there are lots of voters who don’t like it.

Guess who has arrived in McCain County with time on her hands and cable TV – our Betty.

One point: I find it curious that you were, as I recall, all for the Iraq War (on terrorists) a $3 trillion obligation passed down to debt payers who are younger than we, now you are opposed to a less than $1 trillion (over 10 years, 100 billion increase/year in spending) for health care for the uninsured. That may be a valid stance, but you please explain your reasoning.

Point two: The stimulus didn’t work. Hard to prove a negative, I realize, but I shudder to think of the number of people who’d be unemployed and the cascading secondary effects of that had Obama not bailed out the auto makers and injected some stimulus which substituted spending by the states for the now absent consumer spending (the teachers you discount). You are right, it hasn’t improved. You are wrong, it could be lots worse.

Point 2.5: While you are angry about Obama’s $800 billion stimulus/bail out spending but don’t mention the $3 to $5 trillion in cash and guarantees the Bush Administration ponied up to keep the banking system going last fall, six months previous to the stimulus. Or maybe you lump Obama and Bush’s efforts together. Nonetheless: I wouldn’t have wanted to see the banking system collapse so we could keep some libertarian economist’s graphs and charts purely “free market.”

Point 3: Be very cautious, Liz, about invoking the Constitution and Founding Fathers as if they were Holy Writ. The first version of the Constitution provided for slavery and reserved voting privileges for men with property, effectively disenfranchising most of the people who lived in the new United States.

Hardly a document I want to go back to.

Secondly, even the founding fathers knew the law of the land would have to change with history, that is why they provided for the Constitution to be amended and a Congress and Executive to make and carry out laws. Which is also why elections have consequences, we’re seeing them now.

Point 4: There are many reasonable arguments for and against the bailout, federal funding for health care, increased or decreased federal or state jurisdiction over many areas of our lives. My experience with cable TV news (all networks) is that you won’t hear many of those reasonable arguments. it isn’t “good” TV. Boring to talk about “bending the cost curve,” exciting to watch some goombah give another goombah what-for over fictitious death panels.

Question 1: As close as you and I are coming to being eligible for Medicare (a single-payer health insurance system operated by the federal government and open to everyone 65 and older), is it really morally just for us to fight tooth and nail to preserve our right to ride scooter chairs when the cost of the is the inability to immunize schoolchildren (not an actual choice, just a ‘for instance.’)

Question 2: Name me one freedom the current administration has taken from you and your family? Name me one Obama-proposed tax increase you have had to shoulder? I’ll even cut you some slack, name me one freedom you think he’ll take from you through increased spending, increased health care, Michelle’s vegetable garden, anything?

Glad to see you got your spunk back though!

“A few thousand teachers” don’t cut it. The latest data, as reported in the Wall Street Journal, shows “The Stimulus Didn’t Work: The data show government transfers and rebates have not increased consumption at all.” Unemployment has not come down. And for this, Obama has put us and our children into trillions of dollars of debt.

And yes–I should have said, “Just leave us and our freedoms alone.” We do not want a radical, socialist “nanny” state in the U.S. that seeks to redistribute our wealth. We want to preserve the freedoms and capitalism that the Constitution and our Founding Fathers put in place.

You will probably balk at this, but I suggest you watch some of the programming over at Fox News to get a balanced view. If you watch nothing but the “main-stream” media, who are in the tank for Obama, you will not hear what is really going on down here because they do not report it.

Thanks for your perspective on health care in Canada, Morgana. I was going to ask you about that!

I am angered at the lies that are being perveyed about Health Care in Canada. You know, “can’t choose you’re own dr., long waiting lists, expenses, etc. etc.” The insurance industry and the Republican Party want to scare you with these ideas. But here is the truth — in our experience.

Since we came to Canada in 1969, our family has benefitted from our Medical care in the following ways:

I had a tubal ligation — no charge.
All five of our grandchildren were born and there was no charge.
Tom jr. had a melanoma operation — no charge.
Tom sr. was hospitalized for a week with a serious nosebleed. No charge.
He was also admitted to Emergency recently with breathing problems. No charge.
I had two cataract operations. A $300 charge for the type of flexible lenses Medicare didn’t cover, otherwise no charge.
I have seen such specialists as in gynecology, opthamoloty (sp?), psychology, ear and nose specialist, foot doctor, and others. There were these charges for items not fully covered by our Medicare: $40 not fully covered by Medicare which paid $100 for the psychologist (his total fee was $140, $5 for the foot doctor, (Medicare paid for he rest.)
I have had ultra sounds, and other tests that I cannot remember at the moment.

So you see, we feel very fortunate to live here. It is not as you hear it described. We choose our own dr., and we get timely referrals to specialists.

I hope this will give you another perspective on Health issues. I understand that there are some 47 million people without coverage in the U.S., which is more than all the people in Canada. (30 million)

Morgana Graham